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Re: is cloning playing god?

madmerv ( 07/21/2005, 21:56:11 )

You must look at the difference between Religion and Science -- of creationism and science -- the creationists believe that God Created the Universe and Mankind in his Image (sometimes, humankind) -- science uses a method of reasoning - analysis - and logic to approach discovery and solutions to problems. It categorizes and then, through mathematics, can be further examined. Science is observation: it attempts to catalog the world around us; it's laws, the contents of it. When we speak of science we can speak of various disciplines. One discipline is Astronomy, which is viewed as a pure science. Astronomy is pure observation. Physics, another science, allows us to examine the physical properties of the universe - the basic building blocks and forces, and attempts to describe matter -- the stuff of the universe -- whereas Biology and Chemistry focus on relationships between larger building blocks - and are very related (biochemistry, for instance, and organic chemistry, are the precursors to all other specializations in these sciences). Biochemistry is the study of biological/chemical systems... whereas astrophysics is a study of the physics of celestial bodies (astro-physics, a hyphenation of two different sciences).Science is observation, reasoning and a collection of facts and theories.Religion is a type of fiction that is claimed to be the 'voice of god' or the 'divine voice' for some group of people - it is mythos, not fact, and is usually based on an idea that an entity, Creator, God, Allah, whatever, intelligently designed the universe. A true "skeptic" would believe that humans write books- and that organized religion (ex: Catholic Church) is somehow embued with the power to make decisions on morality in the name of "God" or the "creator" -- a mythos is a grouping of legends, and religion can be viewed as "legendary" but not necessarily fact.If you seperate facts from fiction, you are 'analyzing' a text -- use this method to analyze the claims made by scientists whose claims may or may not be accepted. For instance, I make the statement "Immortality is possible!" and yet I have no evidence to back up my claim. My claim is, however, that it is possible, but not that I can show you a method to become immortal. Since the idea exists in the world, then somewhere, perhaps in human subconcious, there is evidence of a method to acheive it, and thus the claim is unscientific.A scientific claim (a "theory") is also not a hard fact. The fact is, if you drop a ball 10 times, it will fall every time, and since it has never "flown up" instead of "fallen down" then science may, after a serious of tests, state it as a "law" -- thus the advent of Newtonian physics. It was later proven that Newtonian physics was only useful as a tool for human-scale physics, and Quantum mechanics 'revolutionized' In science we talk about 'revolutions' as changes in major fundamental theories and understandings about the universe as a whole -- since the universe cannot be encapsulated and viewed from the outside (as an 'omnicient being' such as god might view the universe) then no one in it can know it in its entirity, and, by definition, it is infinite, so not all of its functions could ever be fully understood.If we talk about 'God' we can define God in a mathematical or logical expression as being 'a being that can hold the entirety of the universe in its mind' -- or a being greater than the universe itself.These are major questions and cannot be completely explored in a single paper, so don't think you've not written enough if you're at 100 pages -- you could write on God and Science forever and still not fully capture all of the arguments. It is of note that the Existence of God, a philosphical question dating back thousands of years, has not ever been proved.However, it might also be of note that God itself, named as an 'omnicient, omnipotent being' is beyond the scope of human conciousness, and may not be able to be understood by man by its very definition.Take a look at philosophy and reason, to understand some of the arguments. There are many arguments about this, see the following URL for just some of the reasoning behind God's existence.

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