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Illegal Beings: Human Clones

Re: How will we retrieve the memories of those that we clone?

libfemme ( 11/19/2003, 02:08:09 )

Neurogenesis in the adult human brain was reported in 1998 by Peter S. Eriksson1, Ekaterina Perfilieva1, Thomas Björk-Eriksson2, Ann-Marie Alborn1, Claes Nordborg3, Daniel A. Peterson & Fred H. Gage in Nature Medicine, November 1998 Volume 4 Number 11 pp 1313 - 1317, http://www.nature.com/neuro/web_specials/supp_info/nm1198_1313/So far scientists have concluded that neurogenesis does occur in the adult primate hippocampus and olfactory bulbs, but found no evidence of new nerve cell growth in the neocortex. The neocortex specializes in planning, reasoning, and language. Memories, however, are correlated with activity in the hippocampus and evidence suggests that this area does indeed create new cells. That is how anti-depressiants work, by the way. http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/newneu.htmlAs for spinal cord regenesis, while it is true that severed nerve fibers in the adult spinal cord do not spontaneously regenerate, damaged nerves in the peripheral system, the extremities, can heal themselves. The fibers making up the spinal cord come from the same cells as do the fibers in peripheral nerves. Scientists believe they now may have found the molecular signals that induce growth in the spinal cord over damaged areas. http://www.mgh.harvard.edu/DEPTS/pubaffairs/releases/May99_spinal_cord.htmI think you are confusing genes and chromosomes. Yes, flatly, exactly one half of your genes are copies of your mother's genes. They are arranged on 23 chromosomes located in the nucleus of the egg. Crossing over occurs among your mother's chromosomes before the germline cell divides into oocytes. The chromosomes may no longer be identical to the ones your maternal grandmother gave to your mother but they are definately one half of the genes your mother had.For the benefit of others reading this: your mother had a chromosome number #1 which she received at conception from your maternal grandmother and a chromsomes number #1 from your maternal grandfather. She has two copies of chromosome number 1. Since she passes on to you only one copy of a Chromosome #1 (along with a copy of the 22 other chromsomes) how does she pick which Chromosome #1 to give you? Does she pick your maternal grandmother's or your maternal grandfather's and give you that chromosome whole exactly as she received it? No, she does not. She mixes genes from the two and comes up with a hybrid Chromsome #1. It is this hybrid that she passes on to you. But the genes on that chromosome most definately came from her! They are her genes. And they represent exactly 1/2 of the genes she has located on a Chromosome #1.Heaven only knows where those genes came from before that, which branch of the tree are representated more than another, but when you get them they are exactly 1/2 of the genes your mother had before you.Your father also has two copies of chromosome #1. Regardless of which half he gives you, they are still half. You have half of your father's genes.You may not have exactly one quarter of your paternal grandmother's genes but you definately have 1/2 of your father's genes.My original posted response made mention of two uses of the word "cloning"; mitosis to create new body cells in the same individual and reproductive cloning, taking one of the cloned cells and letting it become a new individual.Therefore when I talked about being a "clone" I was referring to the first useage, you are "colony" or collection of cells cloned from each other. Each and every cell of your body (with the except of red blood cells) have exactly the same genes. Therefore every cell in your body is a "clone" of the others.Since the original post asked how "memories" could be transfered from clone to clone, I was pointing out that it should be obvious that the act of cloning does not impart any memory since your body "clones" cells all the time. It is how you grow and repair yourself. You have no memory of the individual cells in your body therefore cloning does not impart memory. Secondly, you have half of your mothers genes. Those genes are made by a process of cloning also. Does the act of cloning your mother's genes give you your mother's memories? No it does not. Ergo, cloning does not transfer or carrying memories. Memories is a thought process conducted at the organ level not at the genetic level.

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