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Re: Holy Spirit - Revised
libfemme ( 05/23/2004, 05:50:18 )....genetics would not be a reason men have faith.Then are you willing to state that proposition as a testable hypothesis? Are you sure you understand what I mean by a testable hypothesis? Or why the ability to make successful predictions is used in science as a means of choosing between explanations?For example: If I am use a "wrong" premise and yet am successful at predicting events, while you use a "right" premise and yet have no better than a hit or miss success rate, then which of our methods will be the more useful in practical day to day application?Even if your proposition is true and yet there is nothing useful one can gain from that information, then so what?Let me discuss this same conundrum from a different vantage point, using a different kind of example: I think you would agree that an important aspect of Christ on Earth was his role as a faithhealer. This was the source of large portion of his notority and appeal to converts. And much of Christian dogma still centers around the ability of faith to heal physical disease. Faith healing is still widely popular. It has never gone out of favor. Most Americans would probably say they believe in the power of faith to heal.And yet when people get sick how many times do they call a doctor anyway? Even people who rely mainly on faith healing, how many times do they also call a doctor?Money is tight everywhere. Why would people pay a doctor if they felt he was unnecessary? Why would they ask a doctor about his treatment course if they felt his ability to predict the cause, and consequently affect a cure, was irrelevant?On a practical, day to day, basis people do what works. They may not believe in doctors, but they go to them.The same thing applies here to genetics. If there is a genetic pattern to religiousity then it will be possible to predict religiousity based upon looking at biological factors. And if over time and circumstance, looking at this pattern is more successful in predicting religiosity than using environmental conditions then your denial that genetics has any effect is irrelevant.People may agree with you, but they will still look at the genetic pattern and act upon what works in practicality.So if you can't show that your explanation is better at predicting events, you become marginalized. This is what is upsetting much, all though certainly not all, of the religious community.They feel they must argue against all new scientific claims to prevent any more success of science over established churches as a source of useful information in one's daily life.As I said, this is not true of the mainline churches, but it appears to be the guiding motivation of a large and increasingly vocal opposition to any scientific inquiry from certain fringe religious groups, some even Christain.
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