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SC ( 09/16/2004, 20:11:05 )David Suzuki is more of a cult religious leader than a scientist now. He makes his living by scaring and lying to people. I just tried a Google search for pigs with frog legs and it didn't turn up anything. I think that if someone had really made pigs with frog legs, it wouldn't be that tough to find articles about it. In any event, you can't clone a pig and get a pig with frog legs. Cloning just gives you the same kind of animal you started with.There are no more important rights than the ones associated with cloning. If you don't have the right to live, and the right to choose how you will live, you don't have any other rights either. Suppose that someone decides that it's your time to die, and shoots you? Should that person get away with it? Withholding medical care from someone who could have been saved is medically unethical; doctors can be charged with murder if they know that people can be saved and don't save them. Doctors may indeed love money, but that's not a cloning issue. There have always been some greedy doctors around; they weren't suddenly invented when people started talking about cloning.Nature has no morality. Whether something is "natural" or not is irrevelevant as far as choosing between right and wrong is concerned. It's not "wrong" to change; living things are always changing, whether it's wrong or not. We can't choose whether we will change, only how.There's often a double standard at work in the way people talk about infertility. Suppose you talked about people who suffer from other diseases or disabilities in the same way? Why look for a cure for diabetes, for instance, when people can just take insulin?Your posts thus far have a lot of fear in them. If you let fear rule your life, you won't be able to see the good in anything, and end up living a sort of half-life. For instance, if you really believe that death is no big deal, and that it's what you would choose anyway, why aren't you dead already?The problem with death, as I see it, is twofold. First, there's usually a lot of pain and suffering involved; people usually spend a lot of years in decline from aging and/or disease before they die. Second, people have no choice in the matter. As long as your urge to die doesn't interfere with my life, I don't mind, but unfortunately, it can at this stage. What one person considers happiness could seem like total misery to another person; however, what often makes that person happy is the knowledge that he or she is following a path that was freely chosen. Death can't be a good thing until it can be chosen.There are living things which don't age, and live for much longer than people do, which is why greatly extended life spans are considered possible. I made a reference to this on page 8 in a post about aging dated 02/14/2004, 03:36:48.
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