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Re: Those RELIGION vs EVOLUTION comments... Really...
I_KNOW_WHOM_TO_CLONE ( 12/11/2004, 17:11:31 )eternalwater7k said: "so, in your own words,and beleiefs,how did the world come to pass???Was it always there?Did it create itself,then,atheist?"Now, regarding that question: (I sense some sarkasm and arrogance, but: shame's on you...)First: A lot of things from the bible can be interpreted as metaphoric representatives of the real things (e.g. God = Logic, Universe or Nature (represented in matter); 7 days of Earth's creation then would be 7 periods (counted in milions or even bilions of years) in relation with Earth's history, etc.). So, THOSE THINGS MAYBE SHOULDN'T BE INTERPRETED LITERALY, unlike someone would like to think. (modern-day people shouldn't - that's for sure; because many things are now revealed, so people began (or should begin) to realise what I've just put to notice (look at the capital letters above)). Bible tells stories - myths that were down-to-Earth, concrete and relatively easy for uneducated people of those ages to accept and understand.Second: When we say "world" we mean "Earth" (there are other worlds near-by - like Moon or Mars, or Venus, or the satellites of Jupiter and Saturn). You can walk on those lands similar to how you walk the Earth. So you asked specificaly - "How Earth (our world) was created?". Well... Using logic it is most obvious that the only way it could be consieved is that all the matter Earth consists of came to one place from dispersion (by the coincidency of vast numbers of possibilities). Oxygen, Hydrogen, or even water itself, rocks that consist of all kinds of metals and non-metals came together. Every supstance has a property called gravity (hard substance, gasses, liquids). All the supstances that would create Earth pulled each other with their amount of gravital force, and little by little they created a ball (beaause the shape of ball is the most stable one).Imagine it like this: lava hardened after it was thrown away by the nuclear fusion explosion of some very huge star that reached the critical mass. Nuclear fusion is a process of joining of the less sophisticated chemical elements into more complex chemical elements. Different number of protons and neutrons in the core of an atom define different chemical elements. Fusion happened because a pressure inside that star was so huge that cores of the atoms of the supstance it consisted of, came criticaly close in order for nuclear reaction to happen. Such pressure was there because of huge gravity of that super-star. In that molten lava there were diferent chemical elemants because different amount of pressure causes less or more complex elements to come out of nuclear fusion. Lava hardened into stones and rocks of all shapes an sizes. Also there were gases and liquids created by the same process of nuclear fusion. Those stones (hard matter), liquids and gasses floated around. Once few of those rocks came together because of their gravity, the new gravity (of them together) becomes stronger, so they pull even more rocks. That process happens faster and faster as size of that heap (and its gravity) increases. Little by little - that's how all the planets were created; that's how Earth (our world) was created. All those balls made of stone, liquids and gasses revoleve around each other, and all of them revolve around the Sun which revolves around the center of the galaxy, and our galaxy is one of the many. All those things are not just believes and teories - they can be tested, and everyone can see with their own eyes that they are the truth.-------------------------- How huge the space is? Are there borders of it? What's beyond those borders? Where did the matter itself came in the first place? What is that black between the stars we see at night, and how far is it? - Now those are questions without answers today, but I'm also sure that there are logical explanations for all of them.That's when we've came far enough - to things which are opened for oppinions (only now).My oppinion (wild imagination): I think that vacuum (empty space) also has its own mass (the smallest one), and that there is a primar unit of space (the smallest mesurable amount of space (just like there is a constant of light-speed which cannot be breached)). It can be called a "vacuum particle" (maybe that's what we call "nothing", and there is no further level of nothingness than that). Maybe that particle makes-up photons and quantum particles, which create protons, neutrons and electrons (their existance is obvious; need an explanation?), and they create atoms, and atoms create supstance... The mass of vacuum had a critical gravity which created quantum particles because of pressure on "vacuum particles" at the center of that force, that created subatomical particles and so on... Now, that stuff really is complicated to imagine, because if we imagine that "SPACE" is created of "vacuum particles", then it would mean that "SPACE" is in shape of a ball (a most stable 3D shape) with increasing density towards center; but how can smething have a shape when there is not something else (around it) that defines it as a shape comparing it to itself. A paradox.Look at the night sky when the weather is clear so you can see the stars; then understand that you can sit on a rocket and travel into that blackness going far from the Earth until you canot see it no more. Imagine that time is not of the esence - that you never die, that you're indestructible, and you have everithing to live - so you can travel all the way. The question is: where would you end-up?Althoug we do not have a clue what is the Space, one thing is sure as sure can be: WE ARE IN IT.
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